Houston’s world champion Charlo twins, Jermall and Jermell, joined hosts Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson for a special episode of ALL THE SMOKE to preview the Charlo’s upcoming matchups headlining the first-ever SHOWTIME PPV doubleheader this Saturday, September 26. In Saturday’s unprecedented twin bill that begins live at a special time of 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT.

WBC middleweight champion Jermall will face top contender SergiyDerevyanchenko in the main event of the first card, while WBC super welterweight champion Jermell takes on WBA and IBF 154-pound champion Jeison Rosario in a world championship unification fight in the main event of the second card of the pay-per-view.

After everything is said and done, Jermell believes the legacy he and his brother will leave behind will be on the level of the Klitschko brothers.

"I say as big as the Klitschko's, or bigger. We want to be champions together in the same weight division again, if that's possible. We just want to be legends where people follow our platform and they recognize every time they see us, they're like, '… They dogs. And they looked out for people. They were good people.' We don't want people to just think we're some crazy warriors that just walk around banging their bats against the poles and stuff. We want people to understand that we're really serious about the sport of boxing. That we're passionate and we love the game, but we love life as well, and family," Jermell said.

Jermall, in against his toughest career opponent in Derevyanchenko, reflected on the last time he co-headlined a card with his brother and witnessed Jermell losing for the first time against Tony Harrison.

Jermall headlined that night, winning a tough decision over Matt Korobov.

“To the world, they still thought that was a close fight [between me and Korobov] because the guy landed some punches early on in the fight. But I had to shake my head and get my head cleared, just seeing my brother lose for the first time ever in my life, that sh-t kind of messed with me mentally. But I shook it off and then I went on to destroy (Korobov)," Jermall said.