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Gans beat plenty of middlweights. That was the class he fought in catch up!! He also has a win overbat least one heavyweight....Last edited by JAB5239; 04-26-2025, 01:16 PM.Bronson66
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I like seeing Barrera there, and Morales is obviously arguable. As much as i like Crawford, I don't think he has the names . His longevity is certainly arguable though....
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No common sense there. He's way behind, looking for more hooch and has NO idea what's being talked about. It happens.....I guess....travestyny likes this.
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Deontay turned down a 100 mil 3 fight deal. Only worth 10k in 1908 per fight.
You may be right, I can't say with any authority. I do know he fought at least one black fighter before becoming champion. Other than that idks. I dont have a horse in this race, im just trying to learn something...
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That's more than 104 million in today's money. Color lines or not i doubt ANY fighter would turn that down....billeau2 likes this.
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Boxing was so much different back then. Just learned this today. So apparently Tommy Burns had plaster of Paris on his hand wraps for his fight with Hugo Kelly. Jack Root who was cornering Kelly objected to it so Burns took it off. No fuss, no big to do. Now i will never claim to be well versed in...
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I took it as she didn't care if he fought black fighters as he always had, but that she didn't want him to while the riots were happening. The reason why is anyone's guess, but I myself wouldn't call that drawing the color line but instead being socially conscious. Jmo though....travestyny likes this.
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But why? I think that question is answered with the riots and his wife's concern of them morr than any fear or bias of ANY black fighters as he went on to continue fighter other (better) black fighters....
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It was unfortunate that when I moved i had to get rid of so much. I probably had over 1000 books and even more magazines. I didn't mind the clutter when I lived in RI because I was in that house for so long. But I didn't want to bring so much with when I came to NC. I've got a decent collection of books...Anomalocaris
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Lol, there aren't any hard feelings nor hurt ones. I still respect you as well, but we're probably not going to find common ground here. You interpret what we have to work with your way, and I'll interpret it my way....Marchegiano likes this.
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The source said and I quote "basically boiled down to" drawing the color line. This does not mean a colorline was drawn, and it certainly doesn't mean Greb was scared which you inferred when you said "Greb drew the colorline when the challenger was scary enough for it". It is an...
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Big brother is always watching!!
I agree though, it is getting spooky and I personally don't like it....
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You have one newspaper account claiming it is basically what they were saying. You claiming a color line was drawn because he said no to a second substitute in less than 24 hrs is absurd just because said fighter was black. It's a reasonable decision for any fighter.
And let not make a...Bronson66
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You see it as taking the easy way out. I see it as a fighter frustrated with 2 opponent changes in less than 24 hours. Did Greb use a racist slur? According to the Syracuse Herald. There are no other sources I'm aware of though. Did he really say he "promised his wife". Again, According to...
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