The Greatness of Joe Frazier and an example of when the lineal was needed and came to the rescue of boxing

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Exactly!!...

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Possible. But his style is such that it is very difficult imagining a path to victory against Usyk. What could Parker to do Usyk? Even Joshua had more power... Bellew who is IMO a fantastic tehcnical fighter, outfoxed Usyk for a while... Parker has gotten much better technically but not near the level...

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Moore was incredible, Hopkins was excellent, but levels to the game... The Mongoose was truly an ATG....

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Kubrick one of my absolute favorites!

Queenie tole me that Kubrick designed the entire moon landing! so we could go there without "going" there! Dr Strangelove was there to make sure the finishing touches were in place... Like making sure peter Sellers had enough barbitutes...

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The point is: The fans recognized Ali, the fans demanded an undisputed... Otherwise who would have cared about designating an interm champion? And who would have cared when Ali was out, about unifying the undisputed? If you read the magazine material at the time, the term "lineal" was used,...

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Do u know what you are talking about? There were no breaks back then. seldom did the ref separate fighters. Holding and grappling were part of every day fighting techniques. Watch Corbett instructing Tunney and how to trap the glove while hitting with the other hand as an example.

Holding?...

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These guys remind me of Gatti Ward. And is is a wonderful thing... But Eddie is a promoter and is therefore shiat. Neither of these guys are really able to step up a level that I can see. Maybe I am missing something? I do not interpret the word Mediocre as being bad. In the Middle divisions of boxing...

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Yup, A question of whether to feed each man to the wolves, or let them have a Gatti Ward type of trilogy and cash out....

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When Ali was stripped of his title there was protest. He was considered undisputed. Now, I do not care what any organization said otherwise and the fans felt the same. DEspite a hostile establishment the fans were behind their champion. And so the promoters decided to have a tourney to decide... You...

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May I add:

"You are a fan of the promoters elevating them to mythical status while calling boxers 'scared' and claiming fighters duck other fighters."

And: "You hold a mythical devotion to all the various special interest groups like alphabet soup titles and...

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Nice to hear. Reminds me of the David Hay Chisora fight....

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who won?...

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Johnson that creep! The only fighter to ever hit to the kidneys on occasion... No other fighter would ever even imagine. That is what they all said... "That JJ, always threatening my Kidney sale to China..."

You see how silly your post is about JJ? have you watched fighters...

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"I will not fight a man who is Black."

"I will give you a million dollars to fight this man."

"How Black did you say he was?"...

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Why it was a conspiracy sir! ...

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You guys happen to be two of the most well informed posters... You need to stick together! Willow's lists, for example, are well researched and very well thought out, among other stuff presented. I have mentioned what I think of your R&D here enough so people know how I come down on your posting....

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We grew up in a generation where to be a keyboard warrior one had to own a typewriter....

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You always have the title brudder! besides they would not even give me a points decision over Queenie. But seriously there are few who look at research in select areas that few will venture into. Your understanding of when boxing became about an individual quest, how it ties into the whole Promethean...

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American heavyweights are generally like Wilder. Ali was an incredible exception to the rules. handsome, Black, articulate heavyweights do not tell a story that resonates with boxing fans in Murica. We like beasts... Big punchers that threaten to kill the opponent. Lewis was totally abused by the American...

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How would he have "won it?" Dodging authorities to fight on a barge? They did that... Flying a yet uninvented airplane, or perhaps a blimp, or hot air balloon to distant lands? Maybe they could jet off to a neutral country? Using rubber bands for takeoff. Creating an international undisputed...