How long does it take to be an average boxer

[KOComplaints]

I'm not looking to be Mike Tyson but I want to look less like a beginner if you know what I mean.

Every time I spar and I use my head movement and I barely get hit at all and I make the guys miss (Light sparring,but I ask them to use some power so they are atleast able to utilize their speed to their fullest) and I do get some pretty good hits in clean. but when I get hit myself I get more and more discouraged.

Been at it for 4 months and I was wondering,how long did it take you to get to an average level, and how long do you think it usually takes. I love the sport,and when I spar I am having A LOT of fun, which I shouldn't have considering my friend is worried saying,you shouldn't have fun getting hit in the face. It is fun but I get discouraged.

So if you don't want to read the wall of text answer the question in the title

[Richard P]

I'm not looking to be Mike Tyson but I want to look less like a beginner if you know what I mean.

Every time I spar and I use my head movement and I barely get hit at all and I make the guys miss (Light sparring,but I ask them to use some power so they are atleast able to utilize their speed to their fullest) and I do get some pretty good hits in clean. but when I get hit myself I get more and more discouraged.

Been at it for 4 months and I was wondering,how long did it take you to get to an average level, and how long do you think it usually takes. I love the sport,and when I spar I am having A LOT of fun, which I shouldn't have considering my friend is worried saying,you shouldn't have fun getting hit in the face. It is fun but I get discouraged.

So if you don't want to read the wall of text answer the question in the title

How longs a piece of string?

Let's keep it real simple, to be better than average I would say you need to have a 70% minimum win rate if you have AM bouts (40-70% average), sub 40% below average, however I know some good fighters that have fought really good opposition and there fore lost(but that argument of statistics is for another day)

It's almost impossible to say if your not doing anything more than light spar in the comfort zone of your own gym.

I know guys who are great on the bag but **** in a proper bout, likewise guys who are ok/average on the bag and then a machine in a competitive bout.

The true litmus test is a fight on a show

Back to your original question, to be better than the 'average' guy on the street, a couple of years and you should easily stand out from the crowd. Against another boxer who trains properly, 5+ years. Against a boxer, who is atraining out of aproper globally recognised gym 10+ years.

One thing I have learnt is no one is as good as they think they are

[Richard P]

Just my opinion, and I know some people will say you can't measure it as simple as that, but I didn't want to sit on the fence.

[KOComplaints]

How longs a piece of string?

Let's keep it real simple, to be better than average I would say you need to have a 70% minimum win rate if you have AM bouts (40-70% average), sub 40% below average, however I know some good fighters that have fought really good opposition and there fore lost(but that argument of statistics is for another day)

It's almost impossible to say if your not doing anything more than light spar in the comfort zone of your own gym.

I know guys who are great on the bag but **** in a proper bout, likewise guys who are ok/average on the bag and then a machine in a competitive bout.

The true litmus test is a fight on a show

Back to your original question, to be better than the 'average' guy on the street, a couple of years and you should easily stand out from the crowd. Against another boxer who trains properly, 5+ years. Against a boxer, who is atraining out of aproper globally recognised gym 10+ years.

One thing I have learnt is no one is as good as they think they are

I know I suck,that is the difference though. but thanks for the answer

[Jovanny]

Good question! I have same feelings. I know I'm never going to be a great boxer (I'm too old for that, as a beginner, anyway) but I'd like to be a mediocre amateur.

[KOComplaints]

by the way, I'm talking about at amateur level,not pro. I love the sport but don't want to live it

[Richard P]

by the way, I'm talking about at amateur level,not pro. I love the sport but don't want to live it

Good couple of years then, do some interclubs (when your gym opens its doors for fighters to come and have a controlled spar). Get on a couple of local shows when you can or feel ready.

Proper fighting (not sparring) is a completely different ball game. It's hard to explain, but how you deal with nerves (they can sap energy and massively fatigue you). Being your first fight, and being rough around the edges, you will eat a shot at some point, how do you shake it off with 12oz gloves.

Obviously don't run before you can walk, you should be able to look a little bit better than when you see a drunk fight on the street after a few years.

[BuakawBanchamek]

I'm not looking to be Mike Tyson but I want to look less like a beginner if you know what I mean.

Every time I spar and I use my head movement and I barely get hit at all and I make the guys miss (Light sparring,but I ask them to use some power so they are atleast able to utilize their speed to their fullest) and I do get some pretty good hits in clean. but when I get hit myself I get more and more discouraged.

Been at it for 4 months and I was wondering,how long did it take you to get to an average level, and how long do you think it usually takes. I love the sport,and when I spar I am having A LOT of fun, which I shouldn't have considering my friend is worried saying,you shouldn't have fun getting hit in the face. It is fun but I get discouraged.

So if you don't want to read the wall of text answer the question in the title

I think you start to become an above average boxer or advanced level once you get that shoulder snap in your punches that's the solid base to get good at boxing I'd say.

Took me between 1 year and 1 and a half years to get snappy punches.
You can always improve but this is the crucial point in my opinion.


To achieve the snappy punches you need to punch thousand upon thousands of punches. So keep working on the basics Jab,Straight, Footwork etc and of course sparring.
Even with 5+ years experience you still gotta do it.


And people whom I consider as casuals or beginners are people who only watch Tyson lol . You can learn a lot from watching different fighters besides Tyson.

[Rock&Roll]

To be a knotch above a novice level - 2 years training 3 times a week, 3-4 fights.

To be a decent amateur fighter with a decent amount of experience: 4-5 years, 15 fights.

After that you start talking about experienced amateurs who can hold their own against the average pro's.

Rough guide, of course everyone is different.... talented kids fight after a couple months of training and others can take 12 months to get ready. Average from zero to hero is about 6 months for first fight.

[BuakawBanchamek]

To be a knotch above a novice level - 2 years training 3 times a week, 3-4 fights.

To be a decent amateur fighter with a decent amount of experience: 4-5 years, 15 fights.

After that you start talking about experienced amateurs who can hold their own against the average pro's.

Rough guide, of course everyone is different.... talented kids fight after a couple months of training and others can take 12 months to get ready. Average from zero to hero is about 6 months for first fight.

How often would you fight amateur fights per year?