squats with heavy weights good for boxing

[SirPimpGmoneh]

are squats with heavy weights good for boxing? Im in the welterweight class.

[Juansin]

I would like to say as squat is king in bodybuilding but i would say that it is also good for boxing as well . For more information you need to consult with expert here . Thanks

[mudpunch]

Hi, I am Expert.
I would also like to say that squat is the king in weight lifting, but i would say that it is also good for boxing as well . For even more information you need to consult with doctor here . Thanks

[sammiza567]

yes. just because you lift a heavy weight and it goes up slow, you are still training your fast twitch fibers. even if the bar is moving slow, as long as your attempting to move it as fast as possible. low reps high weights. standing over head press, squats, deadlifts, bench, rows, weighted pullups/dips. stay under 6 reps or just do bodyweights work. plyometrics work good too. dont just do what i said research it on your own dont take advice from a stranger put in the time and you will be better for it.

[dctopboots01]

yes. just because you lift a heavy weight and it goes up slow, you are still training your fast twitch fibers. even if the bar is moving slow, as long as your attempting to move it as fast as possible. low reps high weights. standing over head press, squats, deadlifts, bench, rows, weighted pullups/dips. stay under 6 reps or just do bodyweights work. plyometrics work good too. dont just do what i said research it on your own dont take advice from a stranger put in the time and you will be better for it.

Squats are a great strength builder but can leave you drained and you don't want it affecting your BOXING as that is most important. Bodyweight Squats are great and there are other movements that are great for strength and endurance. My favourites are One-Legged Squats, Dumbbell Romanian Deadlifts, Dumbbell Lunges, Dumbbell Step-ups, Squats Jumps, Lunge Jumps, Glute-Ham Raises.

Dumbbell training is great by the way. It works both sides of your body equally. Remember, a Barbell Squats will works your dominant side mostly when you begin to struggle, dumbbells force your body to work evenly!

[#1Assassin]

you should never train with heavy weights for boxing. the guy saying moving weight slow still works your fast twitch muscle fiber is DEAD WRONG.

do mainly bodyweight squats in high reps as this simulates a fight as you use similar movemwents to get under punches all night. if you want to add weight to get a bit more strenght and explosiveness add maybe 20lbs at most. no more than 20lbs though.

[Rockin']

Squats are good, a fighter must have strong legs.

Funny thing, in high school I had a weight training class with all of the football players and guys like that. I was fighting at 139lbs at that time. I max squatted 340lbs in that class, flipped all of the football players out as I maxed more than most of them. The football coach (who taught the class) came over after asking me if he was going to need to test me. I replied that I already tested and maxed 340lbs. The coach shook his head, "I know what you maxed, am I going to have to test you"? From boxing and running I believe it made my legs very strong. When I was repping I would guess that I'd have 150-175lbs.

You want to build your legs strong? Duck walk around the gym for a few rounds......................Rockin'

[DaveJH]

you should never train with heavy weights for boxing. the guy saying moving weight slow still works your fast twitch muscle fiber is DEAD WRONG.

do mainly bodyweight squats in high reps as this simulates a fight as you use similar movemwents to get under punches all night. if you want to add weight to get a bit more strenght and explosiveness add maybe 20lbs at most. no more than 20lbs though.

That view is so outdated. I'm not interested in going through it all again but read this thread: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=528060

[#1Assassin]

That view is so outdated. I'm not interested in going through it all again but read this thread: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=528060

no need. ive been competing ion boxing for 4 years. did other sports since age 5, soccer, basketball, track and more **** than i can remember, most at a relatively high level. i lifted weights and know how it effects my body, maybe you are different but i know what it does for me.

heavy weights=loss of speed.
loss of speed=loss of power & explosiveness.

but do your thing man, by all means. makes my work that much easier if we ever meet in the ring

knocked off more meathead, heavy weightlifting, wannabe tysons than i can remember. gotta love y'all

[DaveJH]

no need. ive been competing ion boxing for 4 years. did other sports since age 5, soccer, basketball, track and more **** than i can remember, most at a relatively high level. i lifted weights and know how it effects my body, maybe you are different but i know what it does for me.

heavy weights=loss of speed.
loss of speed=loss of power & explosiveness.

but do your thing man, by all means. makes my work that much easier if we ever meet in the ring

knocked off more meathead, heavy weightlifting, wannabe tysons than i can remember. gotta love y'all

Heavy weight lifting if performed correctly - around 70-80% of one rep max for 3-5 reps does not harm speed at all as long as the eccentric portion of the rep is performed explosively.

Maximal strength training with heavy weights does harm speed, as has been proven by scientiest Yuri Verkhoshansky.

It's all about prioritising, explosive movements such as cleans, snatches and squats with an explosive eccentric contraction will be beneficial to boxers. I'll quote the article I so often quote on here.

''5. Basic Anatomy and Physiology

After reading that excess max-strength can impair speed strength, you may initially assume that heavy weight lifting is harmful for fighters. This is not true however.

Many old school trainers believe heavy weights will lead to excess bulk and reduced speed. This is a myth. Although excessive development of max-strength can pose problems, this strength quality is still important (if trained in moderation).

To understand the relevance of maximal strength training, it is important to first understand how the body functions. Once you understand the body, there is no dis*****g the relevance of maximal strength training.

For starters, muscle fibers are grouped into motor units. A motor unit contains hundreds of muscle fibers and one nerve, which delivers a signal to the muscle fibers. All of the muscle fibers contained within the motor unit are of the same type (fast twitch or slow twitch). When a signal is passed for the motor unit to contract, all of the fibers within that motor unit will contract.

When training for power development, we must target the fast twitch muscle fibers. Unfortunately, not all motor units are activated at once. Low intensity exercise does not activate the fast twitch muscle fibers. If the exercise does not stimulate a fast twitch motor unit, the muscle fibers contained within the unit will not adapt to the training. Essentially, if the motor unit is not recruited, no response occurs.

Thus, if you only lift very light loads, you will not adequately target the fast twitch muscle fibers. When lifting heavy loads (training maximal strength), a high percentage of motor units are activated. During such intense loads, fast twitch motor units are recruited. For this reason, maximal strength training is considered the superior method for improving both intramuscular and intermuscular coordination.

So, while excessive max-strength training can lead to problems, this strength quality must not be ignored. Through proper program design, max-strength training can be used to enhance the power potential of any athlete (ie. improve your ability to recruit, hence utilize your fast twitch muscle fibers).''