Boxing Gloves - Horse Hair?

[JayCoe]

So I need to get some new gloves because the ones I bought, which I really like, the only problem with them is they seem to have "died" on me in about 6 months, the right hand glove has weakened meaning i'm getting a pretty hurt knuckle all of the time. The same make do some better quality gloves which cost more and use horse hair? Does anybody know why?

What are the benefits of horse hair in your gloves, will they make it last longer?

[peewee1460]

the only gloves i've ever heard of that use horse hair are reyes and they're known as a punchers glove so i wouldn't recommend them. i bought a pair of grant's and they've held up well so far

[JayCoe]

What do you mean a punchers glove? Would they not stand up well against bag work aswell?

[peewee1460]

from what i understand the gloves don't absorb the same amount of impact that others do so your punches are harder, i don't know how that i affects their longevity i just know that if you want to protect your hands they're not your number one choice

[j]

horse hair was used most commonly before the 1940's. boxers of old used them. now, boxers obviously dont.

as an aside, why is it so many boxers have trouble with conditioning their wrists and fists? could possibly be from wearing gloves too much. the cushioning from an impact is considerably less with gloves on. that means at least 2 things - u cant inflict as much damage with a punch, and ur hand will get used to the extra cushion from the glove and become weaker.

as i mentioned in the "hitting a wall" thread, iron hand conditioning should be one of the first thing a boxer does. and, i always mention kostya as he has been doing this kind of training. he said in an interview once that now, he can punch a hole through a wall and not even worry about damage to his hands.

also, from my reading throughout the practices of boxing history, hand toughening seemed to be much more important back then. because, they had thinner gloves. but the result was that they had tougher weapons than boxers of today.

[j]

anyways, perhaps an advantage would be that u might be able to hit with more pure force. the disadvantage is that u have to have built up strong and conditioned hands combined with good alignment of the forearm behind it.

i dont think i have ever used horse haired gloves though. grandfather was a golden gloves boxer from like the 1930's or 40's or something. i should asked him about this

[!! Shawn]

horse hair was used most commonly before the 1940's. boxers of old used them. now, boxers obviously dont.

as an aside, why is it so many boxers have trouble with conditioning their wrists and fists? could possibly be from wearing gloves too much. the cushioning from an impact is considerably less with gloves on. that means at least 2 things - u cant inflict as much damage with a punch, and ur hand will get used to the extra cushion from the glove and become weaker.

as i mentioned in the "hitting a wall" thread, iron hand conditioning should be one of the first thing a boxer does. and, i always mention kostya as he has been doing this kind of training. he said in an interview once that now, he can punch a hole through a wall and not even worry about damage to his hands.

also, from my reading throughout the practices of boxing history, hand toughening seemed to be much more important back then. because, they had thinner gloves. but the result was that they had tougher weapons than boxers of today.

Thats all fine and dandy, but most of us would prefer to be able to use our hands in 30 years. Stuff like that leads to the development of calcification bone spurs and arthritis.

[nirojsri]

Thats all fine and dandy, but most of us would prefer to be able to use our hands in 30 years. Stuff like that leads to the development of calcification bone spurs and arthritis.

yeah I know one of ma *****s he joined mma and trained his hands like that at 20 his hands are constantly shaking and are hard to move. ****** ass ***** told me to try it for boxing I'm like ***** u crazy. you're gonna get mad arthiritis.
now he's probably got arthritis or is getting it fo sho

[Chr0nic]

horse hair was used most commonly before the 1940's. boxers of old used them. now, boxers obviously dont.

as an aside, why is it so many boxers have trouble with conditioning their wrists and fists? could possibly be from wearing gloves too much. the cushioning from an impact is considerably less with gloves on. that means at least 2 things - u cant inflict as much damage with a punch, and ur hand will get used to the extra cushion from the glove and become weaker.

as i mentioned in the "hitting a wall" thread, iron hand conditioning should be one of the first thing a boxer does. and, i always mention kostya as he has been doing this kind of training. he said in an interview once that now, he can punch a hole through a wall and not even worry about damage to his hands.

also, from my reading throughout the practices of boxing history, hand toughening seemed to be much more important back then. because, they had thinner gloves. but the result was that they had tougher weapons than boxers of today.

fist pushups are good wrist/knuckle conditioners i hear

[JayCoe]

In the end I didn't go for these gloves. Problem with shopping for Boxing gloves in the U.K (maybe in other countries too) is it's hard to find actual shops that sell decent gloves at a decent price so when you buy gloves you haven't used or seen you're kind of running the risk of receiving dud gloves. From what I could find out the Horse Hair gloves were a traditional novelty which were made to a good standard but for the same price I could get modern better quality longer lasting gloves. In the end I went for the Lonsdale Super Pro Sparring, should recieve them soon, hoepfully should be good.