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  • Why do weight classes only have an impact before 200 lbs?

    In boxing they say even 8-10 lbs makes a huge difference in a fight but in the Wilder-Fury fight you had a 209 lbs guy up against a 256 lbs guy, which went a full 12 rounds and it was the 209 lbs guy who scored the 2 knockdowns.

    Why is an almost 50 lbs difference not a deal breaker at heavy weight but much less big weight gaps so at the lower weight classes?

    Is a weight difference in a fight overblown or should they actually look to further divide up the HW limits to keep thing equal?
    Last edited by sentax; 01-01-2019, 03:38 PM.

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    The weight classes spread out more the higher you get, I believe the idea was that it was more of a percentage. It’s why the bottom classes are separated by 2-3lbs but then it goes 160, 168, 175, 200 (with 168 being relatively new, and usually just an unnecessary stepping stone.)

    After 200 is where the fun is, because it’s unlimited. You get upsets. You also don’t get guys draining themselves for an advantage.

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    • #3
      Not always but most times getting hit by 225 plus fighters which is what below average HW' s are now is more noticeable then someone under 200...it's why knockout percentages go down when known puncher jump up in weight .

      The heavyweight division is outdated, they created the CW division back when below 200 was a disadvantage, now it's the guys under 215 that is at a disadvantage, anyone who thinks otherwise lives in fantasy land.

      Take Wilder who could fight at 215 but that's one guy and only bc he's a puncher....at elite level he's lost a fight to Fury weighing 210 or whatever he claimed!

      Does the weight class need a shift? Yes it does ....probably a 225 above at HW and anything below CW....if one wants to fight at H W who's below that they should be allowed but a few guys don't make up an entire weight class....people just don't comprehend the average fighter at HW is 235 pounds!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
        Not always but most times getting hit by 225 plus fighters which is what below average HW' s are now is more noticeable then someone under 200...it's why knockout percentages go down when known puncher jump up in weight .

        The heavyweight division is outdated, they created the CW division back when below 200 was a disadvantage, now it's the guys under 215 that is at a disadvantage, anyone who thinks otherwise lives in fantasy land.

        Take Wilder who could fight at 215 but that's one guy and only bc he's a puncher....at elite level he's lost a fight to Fury weighing 210 or whatever he claimed!

        Does the weight class need a shift? Yes it does ....probably a 225 above at HW and anything below CW....if one wants to fight at H W who's below that they should be allowed but a few guys don't make up an entire weight class....people just don't comprehend the average fighter at HW is 235 pounds!
        So are you saying that Tyson (who came in around 218lbs) would have trouble in todays HW division?

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        • #5
          once you are a 200 pound man you can knockout a man over 200 plus you should have the speed advantage...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Post
            once you are a 200 pound man you can knockout a man over 200 plus you should have the speed advantage...
            Is 200 lbs really a magic number though?

            Is a 185 lbs guy fighting a 200 lbs fighter at more of a disadvantage than a 200 lbs guy against someone weighing 235 lbs?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sentax View Post
              Is 200 lbs really a magic number though?

              Is a 185 lbs guy fighting a 200 lbs fighter at more of a disadvantage than a 200 lbs guy against someone weighing 235 lbs?
              I dont have the answer that...that...great question

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              • #8
                Weight difference is definitely exaggerated in general, people start crying when theres a few lbs weight difference as if its mission impossible

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                • #9
                  I dont think its just about punch power, its probably about frame. Men over 200lb lean tend to be a certain size, 6 3 and plus, in general, bigger boned, more potential for muscle, all advantages. Im pretty sure their are a few lightheavys who hit like heavys, and handleful of middles, maybe no welterweights but Hearns may have been close.

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                  • #10
                    Because fans want to see fewer divisions and they have no idea just how big a difference there is between a 215lb man and a 265lb one when both are in fighting shape.

                    I'm tall but lean and have usually had to train with the large guys. Guys over 250 can hurt you even when you block their punches because the impact behind them goes into your bones and takes the wind out of you. You get some of these giants who can also go 12rds and throw fast punches and it's not a level playing field at HW. That's just a fact.

                    As I say though, fans will ignore it because the idea of creating another weight class is annoying AF.

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