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  • USADA Testing vs. VADA Testing

    Let's put this one to bed. This if for that coward GhostofDempsey who prefers to put posters on ignore instead of manning up and accepting the truth.

    USADA and VADA use THE SAME EXACT WADA LABORATORIES FOR TESTING. It's idiotic to try to claim that VADA is better. In fact, there is more evidence that USADA is the better choice. Memo Heredia breaks down the difference between the two CLEARLY!

    Highlights:
    • VADA is an independent, intermediary contractor that doesn't perform testing or any protocol of testing.
    • VADA only contracts an independent sample collector
    • VADA is not recognized by WADA and does not follow WADA protocol
    • Both USADA and VADA use WADA laboratories.
    • Both detect the same things because they use the same labs!
    • The only difference is USADA follows WADA's protocols.


    You have to understand, VADA is an independent, intermediary contractor. They don't perform any testing and they don't perform any protocol of drug testing. All they do is they contract an independent sample collector and those sample collectors send the urine sample to a WADA [World Anti-Doping Agency] laboratory or accredited labs.

    In other words, they don't do anything.

    All they do is just want to take credit. All they want is to collect money. Frankly, all they've been saying to the public, or some of their spokesmen out there, the media who are in favor of them, they keep saying to the public that they do test for several different drugs.

    In reality, they don't test anything other than what WADA does. What WADA cannot detect, obviously VADA can't. VADA is simply an intermediary.

    Dr. Margaret [Goodman], I know she has been doing a good job and she's trying to do something good, I understand, but it's another thing to lie. Don't disguise yourself. Don't try to fool the public trying to lie to serve a product.

    Actually, VADA is not even recognized by WADA because they don't follow WADA protocols.

    Every one of the WADA protocols, they support with human data by tracking human analysis for years. So you're going to have VADA come in and do whatever they want? That's why WADA doesn't recognize them.

    So frankly, this is not about me going against VADA or me going against USADA or favoring any of them. You asked me what's best and I give you my opinion as a federal witness who worked to assist USADA for years.

    Would I test with an organization who has been testing Olympians or NFL players and other different athletes and is recognized by Congress and is also entitled to federal laws if something happens? Yes. Would I go to VADA, who is a self-made company, has nothing to do with testing, and all they're doing is collecting the money and pretty much just hiring the test collectors and using WADA laboratories to test samples? No.

    You have to open your eyes to understand. They don't detect anything different between VADA and USADA. USADA detects the same thing because, at the end of the day, WADA labs, they're the ones that test all of the samples. The only difference is USADA, they follow WADA protocols. VADA doesn't and that's why they're not recognized by WADA. VADA has stated publicly that they detect and provide harder drug testing than USADA, but really, frankly, they don't. To me, it's just a disguised way to sell themselves.

    Obviously those who don't understand testing, they fall for it.

    http://www.fighthype.com/news/article19788.html

    If you need further assistance, GhostofDempsey, let me know.

  • #2
    I don't think Dempsey will recover from this....Lmao!

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    • #3
      How many people has USADA caught compared to VADA in boxing?

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      • #4
        To be blunt, a lot of people are just plain ignorant and ******.

        The organization that has tested olympic athletes and caught thousands of cheaters is obviously a lot more credible than an organization that only started a few years ago and doesn't even do the testing themselves. Not to mention that Victor "Prison Rat" Conte is involved with VADA and this fool was basically shipping drugs left and right for a living and is probably still doing it to this day. Watch him on Joe Rogan's podcast he admits and brags about being able to create drugs that were/are undetectable. Now he's still giving "supplements" to these guys while being involved with drug testing. Does NOBODY think that's a little su****ious? LOL @ anyone who seriously believes an organization like that is more credible than what has been the gold standard for testing for a long time. Some people were born without brains i'm convinced. How can people REALLY believe this stuff?

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        • #5
          Man the same people bashing USADA and d1ck riding VADA said random testing was for cowards and bash Wilder to this day for VADA finding his opponents dirty...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
            How many people has USADA caught compared to VADA in boxing?
            usada is being paid well by floyd to keep those positive test under the rug.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
              Man the same people bashing USADA and d1ck riding VADA said random testing was for cowards and bash Wilder to this day for VADA finding his opponents dirty...
              random testing is NOT for coward, but when you call someone easy work easy money then demand random test or no fight for that easy work easy money then yes, that is kinda coward like if you asks me but that's none of my bizz.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                How many people has USADA caught compared to VADA in boxing?
                Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                Let's put this one to bed. This if for that coward GhostofDempsey who prefers to put posters on ignore instead of manning up and accepting the truth.

                USADA and VADA use THE SAME EXACT WADA LABORATORIES FOR TESTING. It's idiotic to try to claim that VADA is better. In fact, there is more evidence that USADA is the better choice. Memo Heredia breaks down the difference between the two CLEARLY!

                Highlights:
                • VADA is an independent, intermediary contractor that doesn't perform testing or any protocol of testing.
                • VADA only contracts an independent sample collector
                • VADA is not recognized by WADA and does not follow WADA protocol
                • Both USADA and VADA use WADA laboratories.
                • Both detect the same things because they use the same labs!
                • The only difference is USADA follows WADA's protocols.





                If you need further assistance, GhostofDempsey, let me know.
                DISCLAIMER: I am not dissing or accusing any fighter.

                With that said, like u said they both use the wada guidelines as what to test for but Vada has some rule that they can further evaluate a sample. I think that's where that POS Conte comes into play. Synthetic testosterone can be manipulated in so many ways to get around test. Again usada & Vada go by the same wada list of banned substances and yes that list is very public. So that's y u have guys like Memo heredia that prefer/insist on usada testing because it's cut and dry. U don't have guys like Conte staying a step ahead of u going above and beyond. Vada I believe is also more expensive because they do CIR testing every test. I don't know if it's true but I read somewhere usada don't but it's understandable because it's not cost efficient & un-necessary to do if it's a cut and dry test.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                  How many people has USADA caught compared to VADA in boxing?
                  Did you not read the OP? They use the same damn lab.

                  But to answer your question:


                  VADA HASN'T CAUGHT ANYONE. THE WADA LABS HAVE CAUGHT THE ATHLETES USING VADA. THE SAME LABS THAT USADA USES!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JK1700 View Post
                    To be blunt, a lot of people are just plain ignorant and ******.

                    The organization that has tested olympic athletes and caught thousands of cheaters is obviously a lot more credible than an organization that only started a few years ago and doesn't even do the testing themselves. Not to mention that Victor "Prison Rat" Conte is involved with VADA and this fool was basically shipping drugs left and right for a living and is probably still doing it to this day. Watch him on Joe Rogan's podcast he admits and brags about being able to create drugs that were/are undetectable. Now he's still giving "supplements" to these guys while being involved with drug testing. Does NOBODY think that's a little su****ious? LOL @ anyone who seriously believes an organization like that is more credible than what has been the gold standard for testing for a long time. Some people were born without brains i'm convinced. How can people REALLY believe this stuff?
                    Conte's a big Rat but that's the reason for somewhat of Vada success. The guy knows what to look for. That's y memo heredia won't go near Vada.

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