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Should Deontay Wilder be Allowed to Fight with Steel Pins in His Hand?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
    Yet in his fight with Stiverne, the pins reportedly bent. There was no mention of the bones in his hand refracturing. Considering how hard he hits with his right hand, I'm inclined to believe the pins are a definite advantage to him.
    Dude come on...

    I’m just coming from the hospital not too long ago and got my right hand X-rayed and stuff, and it’s fractured. I had fractured my right hand in the third or fourth round of the fight, so I was fighting with one hand, and, truth to be told, ..“Due to the fact that I had fractured this hand before and the pins are still there. So it’s going to be almost as if I have already had surgery. Tomorrow, I’ll have it looked at again,” said Wilder, who returned from a three-month recovery from a broken right hand prior to his 62-second stoppage of Jerry Vaughn in his eighth fight in November 2009.

    “Every time that I hit him, it would hurt, but I had to keep on using it so that he wouldn’t know. I had to figure out a comfortable way to throw it, which is why some of my punches were wide. Because every time that I came straight down, it was painful for me. But I had to **** away all the way through. But I do believe that if my hand wasn’t fractured, that I would have knocked him out. That’s for sure. That’s guaranteed."
    http://ring tv.craveonline.com/news/376471-deontay-wilder-fought-with-injured-hand-eye-vs-bermane-stiverne

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    • #12
      Hasnt ortiz got a metal jaw now

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      • #13
        What about Wlad? He's Dr. Steelhammer ... should he be allowed to fight with a steel hammer? They should make him us a wooden mallet instead.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
          Dude come on...



          http://ring tv.craveonline.com/news/376471-deontay-wilder-fought-with-injured-hand-eye-vs-bermane-stiverne
          Ok, so there's been a report that he broke his hand in January against Stiverne. He fought 5 months later, and your argument is that the pins don't give him an advantage? He was cleared to train 3 months after the fracture. I fractured my hand punching somebody once, but I didn't get pins put in. I'll tell you, It took years for it to not hurt again. I can't imagine fighting with it for a living....unless of course, I had titanium pins installed.

          http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...deontay_w.html
          Last edited by SUBZER0ED; 06-16-2015, 02:14 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Juof View Post
            Hasnt ortiz got a metal jaw now
            That's right, Ortiz has a stronger jaw. Unfortunately for him, he has no heart, so it balances out.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
              Ok, so there's been a report that he broke his hand in January against Stiverne. He fought 5 months later, and your argument is that the pins don't give him an advantage? He was cleared to train 3 months after the fracture. I fractured my hand punching somebody once, but I didn't get pins put in. I'll tell you, It took years for it to not hurt again. I can't imagine fighting with it for a living....unless of course, I had titanium pins installed.

              http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...deontay_w.html
              The pins are internal to the bone and they're tiny with sole purpose of keep two parts connect to promote healing. They're not increasing the density enough to make a difference on his punch impact. But, because steel is harder than bone, under extreme pressure the bone can break around the steel. Like an impurity in cheap iron, it increases the chance for stress fractures.

              Arthur Abraham also got steel implants on his jaw. He was saying he made things worse because the metal can carry vibration from an impact more so rather than absorb it like bone.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
                The pins are internal to the bone and they're tiny with sole purpose of keep two parts connect to promote healing. They're not increasing the density enough to make a difference on his punch impact. But, because steel is harder than bone, under extreme pressure the bone can break around the steel. Like an impurity in cheap iron, it increases the chance for stress fractures.

                Arthur Abraham also got steel implants on his jaw. He was saying he made things worse because the metal can carry vibration from an impact more so rather than absorb it like bone.
                Check out this article on metacarpal fractures. Pins are usually temporary, while screws and plates are usually permanent. Also any combination of pins, screws and plates can be used. Wilder fought Stiverne with pins in his hand, according to his own testimony. We don't know what size pins are in his hand, or if there is a combination of screws, pins and plates. The fact that he fought with steel in his hand sometime (according to him) after he intially inured it, suggests that the implants are permanent. The article states that a person who gets steel implants can begin rehab within days of surgery as opposed to weeks without implants. This alone suggests an advantage to having them. Now imagine a completely healed bone, reinforced with steel implants. You can't tell me that there is no advantage to that.

                http://www.nwoa.com/blog/wrist-and-h...ger-fractures/

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                  Check out this article on metacarpal fractures. Pins are usually temporary, while screws and plates are usually permanent. Also any combination of pins, screws and plates can be used. Wilder fought Stiverne with pins in his hand, according to his own testimony. We don't know what size pins are in his hand, or if there is a combination of screws, pins and plates. The fact that he fought with steel in his hand sometime (according to him) after he intially inured it, suggests that the implants are permanent. The article states that a person who gets steel implants can begin rehab within days of surgery as opposed to weeks without implants. This alone suggests an advantage to having them. Now imagine a completely healed bone, reinforced with steel implants. You can't tell me that there is no advantage to that.

                  http://www.nwoa.com/blog/wrist-and-h...ger-fractures/
                  Well then Wilder must be a more piss weak puncher than we all thought because he still managed to not be able to KO hospital patient Stiverne over 12 rounds.

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                  • #19
                    Wilder is the hardest hitting HW of all time, fact.

                    The only opponent he didn't KO, he broke his hand. The steel rods only hinder his power, not help it.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
                      Wilder is the hardest hitting HW of all time, fact.

                      The only opponent he didn't KO, he broke his hand. The steel rods only hinder his power, not help it.
                      Oh come on!!!!!

                      I don't think the steel pins give him cyborg like punching power or anything like that but you can't EXCUSE his lack of punch power with it either!

                      Wilder has sufficient power to crush cans.

                      He hits far harder than any pre-Tyson era boxer and harder than most HW's since.

                      But he doesn't rate up there in my opinion with the top punchers of the modern era.

                      Wladimir hits about 2ce as hard, as do many other sluggers.

                      Wilder clearly doesn't have enough power to crack the divisions harder chins, that's a fact!

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