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  • Originally posted by SilverSamurai View Post
    I have no problem believing Bruce won, its the reason for the fight i'm not so sure about.
    Any luck finding info about the girl who claimed she saw Bruce and Joe sparring?
    It is in my book at home somewhere. Im at work now. When i get home tonight i will do some digging and investigating for you.

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    • Wow and I thought Horus loved Floyd abit too much lol

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      • oh crap!.......

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        • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          Well he sparred with Joe orbilo ranked 5th in the world and Orbillo was pretty amazed at bruce.
          Bob Wall said bruce fought everyone from grapplers to everything else under the sun. So are you arguing with him?
          Bruce knew Nishioka and Nishioka said he couldnt beat bruce. Nishioka was a top grappler.
          Noone said bruce was unbeatable. Noone is! But theyd put their last dollar on Lee in a confrontation. Bruce said he beleived he could beat anyone. Bruce lee didnt say he was invincible.

          James Demile didnt say lee was unbeatable. He said he didnt stand a chance against bruce, and he dont think anyone else would. Demile never said he was unbeatable so dont go upsetting yourself.
          Saying that no one could beat him, is the same as saying he is invincible.
          Demille has also gone on record saying that Bruce Lee was the best streetfighter in the world.
          Don't go upsetting myself? Why would I upset myself about a guy who died 30+ years ago?
          I'm having trouble finding info on Orbilo, you got a link with his fight record or better yet of him actually fighting.
          Bob Wall again, the same wall who said he could beat Lee in a fight? You are going to have to read that Penthouse article, I posted a link to, you'll get to read what Bob Wall really thinks. Due to the fallout, Wall has practically been apologizing ever since, check out page 20. Gene Lebell (whose most probably more accomplished as a fighter than Nishioka) didn't consider Bruce a great fighter but Nishioka does, and Nishioka word carries more weight because?
          Last edited by Adamantium; 10-04-2009, 10:16 AM.

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          • Originally posted by SilverSamurai View Post
            Saying that no one could beat him, is the same as saying he is invincible.
            Demille has also gone on record saying that Bruce Lee was the best streetfighter in the world.
            Don't go upsetting myself? Why would I upset myself about a guy who died 30+ years ago?

            Bob Wall again, the same wall who said he could beat Lee in a fight? You are going to have to read that Penthouse article, I posted a link to, you'll get to read what Bob Wall really thinks. Due to the fallout, Wall has practically been apologizing ever since, check out page 20. Gene Lebell (whose most probably more accomplished as a fighter than Nishioka) didn't consider Bruce a great fighter but Nishioka does, and Nishioka word carries more weight because?
            Gene Lebel did and does think Bruce is a great fighter. Am i expected to believe Davis Miller? Why wouldnt gene think someone who beat Bob Wall so easily not a great fighter? Does Gene think he could do as good as Bruce did? I saw Gene against Milo Savage or whatever his name was and he didnt look that good. I dont know if Gene would beat BOb Wall. He possibly might but i doubt he would do it without taking some hits and pain.
            Why didnt gene say he didnt think bruce was a great fighter when he was alive then? I have to ask again silver? If you can give some kind of an explanation. I think Gene is jealous because of bruces boasts. And when Bruce said he could beat anyone he meant beat Gene as well. That upset Gene a bit but he couldnt do nothing about it.

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            • Demile never said Lee was unbeatable. He said he didnt think anyone could beat him. There is nothing wrong with that if that is what he thought.
              If Demile thinks bruce was the best its his opinion. Demile almost thought of himself as the top gorilla until he met bruce.
              He had over 200 streetfights if believed without losing.

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              • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                Gene Lebel did and does think Bruce is a great fighter. Am i expected to believe Davis Miller? Why wouldnt gene think someone who beat Bob Wall so easily not a great fighter? Does Gene think he could do as good as Bruce did? I saw Gene against Milo Savage or whatever his name was and he didnt look that good. I dont know if Gene would beat BOb Wall. He possibly might but i doubt he would do it without taking some hits and pain.
                Why didnt gene say he didnt think bruce was a great fighter when he was alive then? I have to ask again silver? If you can give some kind of an explanation. I think Gene is jealous because of bruces boasts. And when Bruce said he could beat anyone he meant beat Gene as well. That upset Gene a bit but he couldnt do nothing about it.
                Where have you read that Gene Lebell considers Bruce to be a great fighter? He says he is a great martial artist, but not a fighter, they are not the same thing. How do you know Lebell didn't say Bruce wasn't a great fighter to his face? Where are you getting your info from?

                Every person that Bruce Lee fought or sparred with, would get destroyed by a prime Tyson or Sonny Liston. Are these two guys unbeatable? Of course not, yet Bruce Lee is for sparring with these people.

                When martial art magazines asked their readers to vote on who was the best fighter of the century, they voted Joe Lewis. Who was way more accomplished than Wall. Why did Lee spar Wall and not Lewis?

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                • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                  Demile never said Lee was unbeatable. He said he didnt think anyone could beat him. There is nothing wrong with that if that is what he thought.
                  If Demile thinks bruce was the best its his opinion. Demile almost thought of himself as the top gorilla until he met bruce.
                  He had over 200 streetfights if believed without losing.
                  DeMille is entitled to his opinion, but that's all it is. What is it even based on anyway? How many world class fighters has he trained and sparred with? DeMille if im not mistaken claimed to be a pro boxer, I have yet to see footage of him fighting so I cant say how good he was. Isn't Demille's claim to fame that he teaches Bruce Lee's martial art? Not exactly the most objective individual if you ask me. over 200 street-fights are you joking, me?
                  Last edited by Adamantium; 10-04-2009, 11:14 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Fulcrum29 View Post
                    Stop dodging the video like a *****. You said something about Kung Fu being serious. Go watch the video and then tell me how serious Kung Fu is. A modern day journeyman boxer would take 3 Kung Fu "masters" 3 on 1 and KO them all. Martial arts is a joke just like wing chun.
                    All martial arts is an obsolete performance art, and a JOKE. They have zero practical application and would get owned on the street by ANY real discipline like boxing or mma.

                    You're still a ****in idiot. Your video shows a trained boxer beating up on a white belt who's probly had 2 weeks of training. And it looks like tae kwon do at that. Not wing chun. Your average "Master" of today trains military and law enforcement on hand to hand combat and are usually ranked officers themselves in military. Alot of arts are still battle tested and proven to save lives to this day so it's completely ignorant of you to say all martial arts are obsolete to boxing when boxing itself evolved from the days of brawlers like Jack Johnson and Joe Louis just winging it to more compact form and harder, more efficient punching as boxing made its way to asia through cross-reference of eastern martial arts with the help of fighters like fighting harada, pancho villa, and ceferino garcia.

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                    • not all kung fu are *******....case in point 2 vids that cudprobly knock out low level mma folks


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