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  • #21
    Originally posted by Silence View Post

    Yeah, Whitaker's defensive skill was based on ducking below waist level. People suppose him one in zillion fighter smh.. If boxing rules are applied 100%, there would be much lesser ATGs, HOFs and champions.
    Yea look if boxing rules had been enforced boxers like Whittaker, Ward, Floyd, would all have dqs and maybe these guys of today like Haney and Stevenson would not use these shady tactics that are diminishing boxing. Now I've only seen clips of Haney vs Linares and this fight vs Kambosos and Stevenson vs Valdez and these are the last times I watch either of these guys "fights" and I know a lot of fight fans think the same way. But to be fair fighters like Kambosos and Valdez should have done more and used shady tactics of their own like more roughhousing for example. You gotta fight dirty too if you want to have a chance.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by dukesville View Post

      Yea look if boxing rules had been enforced boxers like Whittaker, Ward, Floyd, would all have dqs and maybe these guys of today like Haney and Stevenson would not use these shady tactics that are diminishing boxing. Now I've only seen clips of Haney vs Linares and this fight vs Kambosos and Stevenson vs Valdez and these are the last times I watch either of these guys "fights" and I know a lot of fight fans think the same way. But to be fair fighters like Kambosos and Valdez should have done more and used shady tactics of their own like more roughhousing for example. You gotta fight dirty too if you want to have a chance.
      True. Professional boxing is far from pure fist battle. Dirty tactics' antidote is still dirty tactics. Kambosos fought like a man and lost in his hometown.

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      • #23
        People complain about to much clinching ,the same people praise the old time fighters for clinching excessively. You can’t have both either one way or other no double standards . Clinching has been a huge part of the sport since probably ancient times and most notably Jack .Johnson when dirty boxing was legal which is holding and hitting it’s up to the fighters to stop that if they can .

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Silence View Post
          We saw that shıt in Haney vs Kambosos again. Haney clinched and hugged when Kambosos started to close distance. Haney also ducked into Kambosos' knees and Kambosos couldn't find a surface to hit him. Haney did these entire 12 rounds. Both are should be banned.

          Boxing should be fair sport and needs new regulations. If fighters do these illegal moves too much, they should be DQed. These dirty skills are very effective on result of fights. Much more effective than PEDs or other shıts.
          Another dumb post from NSBs village idiot.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
            People complain about to much clinching ,the same people praise the old time fighters for clinching excessively. You can’t have both either one way or other no double standards . Clinching has been a huge part of the sport since probably ancient times and most notably Jack .Johnson when dirty boxing was legal which is holding and hitting it’s up to the fighters to stop that if they can .
            Boxing is a sport based on fists and hugging someone per minute is a problem. Clinching is useful in tough situations, otherwise it should be penalized.
            Last edited by Silence; 06-05-2022, 10:54 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Bermuda View Post

              Yes they did. And even though we can rightfully complain about excessive hugging, at least at the end of the day we can take comfort in knowing that excessive hugging never leads to cte or other serious harm. In fact it's nice to see a hug every once in awhile. It's a nice break from the viciousness we normally see in boxing.


              - Bermuda
              I'm thinking another sport might fit you better. I like the weird possum in your sig, but not hugging in boxing.

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              • #27
                I don’t mind the ducking style, personally I loved watching Pernell.

                The constant clinching though is horrible to watch. Wlad, Hopkins, Ward, and now Haney. Some posters act like you are just a casual fan if you don’t like this style but they have to know in the back of their heads that it’s just a boring watch compared to most boxing.

                I fully support a fighter clinching when they get rocked and are wobbling. In fact I think when done in those moments it shows me something positive about a fighter for having the right instincts when things go wrong.
                But the one jab then immediate clinch style is so ugly/boring. Even when I pick/bet on these guys to win I find myself starting to root for their opponent after a few rounds.

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                • #28
                  I should add though that last night George was way too complicit when Haney held him. Yes the ref was very annoying... but there were moments when Haney had him clinched for a few seconds before the ref stopped it. George should have been trying to fight out of it, hitting his ribs and making him pay for clinching and Haney would have to think twice about constantly doing it.

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                  • #29
                    the fight ******, classic hugger haney 12 round snoozefest just as i said it would be

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      You picked Kambosis to win right?
                      Yeah. But I wasn't exactly rooting for George. I thought that he'd be able to have more success as the fight went on because he'd be able to close the distance. What I actually said what that it's whoever is able to effect their game plan, George getting in on the inside or Haney keeping George on the end of his jab, and that would come down to the intangibles. Then I edged it toward George because I thought close rounds would go to George.

                      Haney executed his plan better, which was jab, duck below the belt line, shoulder you way in and hug/clinch. He would do that every time George closed the distance. And the referee let it happen. The referee wouldn't let them fight out of it, and then he'd separate them and put George back out at range, at the end of Haney's jab. Rinse, repeat ****. The clinching is flat out illegal. Haney can tie up, and that's fine, but clinching is a different story. And you can keep your head down below the belt line, just like you can't turn your back on an opponent.

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